Author: Luthene, Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:22 PM, Post Subject: Dilemma
If I understand the skill tree idea correctly, your goal is to have skill sheets or whatever (hosted offsite, I assume?), and anyone who participates in a given RP topic must fill out one of the sheets?
Assuming this is correct, my advice would be to set up your skill sheets, then write an RP thread and mark it [P] or [Private]. Then, as Britt suggested, go to the Tavern Hall, and say, here is my skill sheet, here's how you can fill one out, if you do this then you can join this RP thread I have set up. (Or wait for people interested before setting up a thread, if you'd prefer. Just make the RP thread private so non-skillers can't join.)
In a way, an advantage of our site being freeform is that you are totally free to do this… and thought less interested in that sort of then can carry on without.
I hope that's helpful.
Author: Xallithelid, Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 9:12 PM, Post Subject: Dilemma
I have several semi-roleplay ideas i am currently fleshing out, so i will make sure to contact one of you guys directly for feedback in the future, if i decide that this site would be the best place to host them. As it stands, The other site i frequent already has DnD, so this wouldn't do well at all, since… dnd.
Author: Toya, Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 8:55 PM, Post Subject: Dilemma
:3 maybe next time pm one of us and ask so misunderstandings are out the window. That way your intentions are clear easily if you word it like "Hey I want to try this new form of rp on here and this is my idea"
Author: Xallithelid, Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 8:51 PM, Post Subject: Dilemma
I didn't know where to put it.
Author: Toya, Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 8:43 PM, Post Subject: Dilemma
To be honest if all you wanted was feedback then the suggestion board was the wrong place for it. I would have placed it in the Tavern Hall and asked if anyone would have been up for it.
Author: Xallithelid, Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 8:33 PM, Post Subject: Dilemma
(Forgive me if i come off as a little salty in this post.)
If you people would have actually read the whole conversation, IN NOT ONE OF MY POSTS DID I SAY THE SITE WOULD BE MOLDED TO FIT THIS ROLEPLAY STYLE, OR ANYBODY, AND I MEAN
ANYONE, WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE A SINGLE THING ABOUT THEIR CHARACTERS AT. ALL. I even EMPHASIZED that the whole thing would be OPTIONAL and NOT CODED. The admins wouldn't have to do a THING. This post was more for general feedback about the OPTIONAL idea of a bit more structure in an OPTIONAL environment, And permission from the moderators to add this
OPTIONAL style of play to the website via one or more OOC threads.
"But for characters like mine where i have 8000+ years of history, world-building, abilities, bloodlines, timelines, etc… I'd hate for people to force me to tweak my characters just so they can fit in the world. And with old and Op characters like that, it gets increasingly harder to find RP-sites that actually allow characters like that. Because of the exact reasons that you suggest. They created their world with a preset list of races and classes. Meaning, I am forced to either change my 10+ years of writing effort or start a completely new character. In both cases, suck…"Nobody said a single thing about you having to participate or even remotely tweak anything about any of your characters at all.
Author: Sebastian Black, Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 7:28 PM, Post Subject: Dilemma
Tact is pretty important for the running and outreach of the site, but as a user, I'll give my unedited opinion here.
There are multiple role-playing boards out there, each with a different focus. The simple answer: If you want gaming elements, then play a game. If you want to write, then write.
On this particular site, the two are kept well-separated. The free-form aspect is clearly stated. To me, this would be no different than the reverse: joining on to one of the more structured sites, like a fan-fiction board for instance or one that follows DnD rules, and complaining about the
lack of freedom. Same concept. There is an insane amount of work that goes into coding, and that would take a lot of re-balancing to make RPG structure a site-wide mechanic. The focus of Revaliir is definitely on writing and free-flowing creativity.
There is certainly room for writing groups on the site that share the sentiment for more structure. Proposing the entire site be molded around one opinion seems unreasonable to me though.
Author: Crystaline, Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 7:20 PM, Post Subject: Dilemma
We could add the list of native races to the wiki but that might take some time aside from those that are blanatly written like Feeorin- Fairies Arri- Rosenite etc etc
Author: Ramla, Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 7:16 PM, Post Subject: Dilemma
No offense Xal, but adding an 'optional' skill tree type of structure into the website is a lot of work for the admins/mods. If it's optional than most people will always choose against and rather make up their own set of skills and abilities and bypass the whole "I need x amount of points before I get to use fireballs'
People can always just create a skill tree system Off-site for themselves if they want the challenge >.>
And besides, the Spell stores sort of acts like a skill tree- ish thing. We write and develop our characters to gain points so they can add abilities ^^
And having a set standard of races and classes will definitely limit writers. Especially those with a preset character like me. It might be handy for newbies in writing, or newbies in the world of Revaliir who want to start fresh. But for characters like mine where i have 8000+ years of history, world-building, abilities, bloodlines, timelines, etc… I'd hate for people to force me to tweak my characters just so they can fit in the world. And with old and Op characters like that, it gets increasingly harder to find RP-sites that actually allow characters like that. Because of the exact reasons that you suggest. They created their world with a preset list of races and classes. Meaning, I am forced to either change my 10+ years of writing effort or start a completely new character. In both cases, suck…. -.-
And again, if this list of races is optional then what's the point on adding it into the website? Although I would understand having a list of 'native' races/classes from -before- Timedeath, but that's more for lore sake more than game sake.
Author: Aaryona, Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:25 PM, Post Subject: Dilemma
Ranger, Cleric, Bard, Swashbuckler, Mage, and Warrior
Author: Xallithelid, Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:22 PM, Post Subject: Dilemma
What are the starting kits for rev? Its been so long i forgot, lel.
Author: Aaryona, Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:20 PM, Post Subject: Dilemma
I said shop lol that's a synth item and I have to redo them all :P give a girl some slack I got a lot to do being a goddess/admin xD
Author: Xallithelid, Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:17 PM, Post Subject: Dilemma
Leather straps have no image tho ^-^
Author: Angela Rose, Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:10 PM, Post Subject: Dilemma
What I suggest if that's what you want is to make something in user events and when we open up user guilds (whenever that will be) move it to there.
This comes down to you doing the work as it's not for us to decide. From our standpoint it really only looks like you at the moment and we would need to put it to a vote to see if others want it as well. To avoid that and still make you happy I would do what I suggested above :) make your own character form for you to fill out and put it up as optional. Then you can come up with your own tag like [SRA] special rules apply. Link the user event thing to the thread and you would be golden.
Basically create a guild of writers who want to rp just like you and have a form for the characters in that guild. Open a DnD book and take the classes from that perhaps?
That way no work has to be done on our end, which makes us happy, and you are happy as well. (We got a lot on our plate. We only just got the shops filled with images)
Author: Xallithelid, Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 5:57 PM, Post Subject: Dilemma
And by no means would it be official, or a big part or the site. The site would remain free form by all means.
Author: Xallithelid, Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 5:49 PM, Post Subject: Dilemma
Woah Woah Woah, Who said anything about coding this? I was thinking more along the lines of a thread or two that were locked from replies with all the information, including skill trees and the like, in OOC forum space, and people who wanted characters could message whoever was running that specific part of the server to notify them that they filled out their sheet or whatever, in their BIO, because bios can be edited. When i pitched this idea i had absolutely no intention of having you guys
code this! I didn't expect that, lol.
Author: Angela Rose, Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 4:51 PM, Post Subject: Dilemma
Also if replying fast is bothering you just put people on a schedule. :) I know some people do it. If you can only reply once a week have one day set aside and tell them that. We're willing to work with anyone us posting whores ;)
Author: Paige Wintercrest, Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 4:38 PM, Post Subject: Dilemma
That's not what anyone is saying at all. We currently have a very small coding team with a lot of work that needs to be done as is. What you are suggesting is a huge coding project as well as a staff project as we need everyone on board as to what type of system to implement onto the site.
Author: Xallithelid, Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 4:07 PM, Post Subject: Dilemma
So even if it was completely optional you are against allowing writers to decide whether or not they would like to follow a system?
Author: Angela Rose, Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 3:49 PM, Post Subject: Dilemma
I could see adding skill trees and set classes when we add the battle arena bit past that it's really up to the writer what they want. Even if we put you have these classes I'm against limiting writers especially when it comes to classes and race. This is a free from site but we will be happy to help
Author: Xallithelid, Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 3:44 PM, Post Subject: Dilemma
The structuring idea was supposed to be optional for some roleplays, not at all a must have for everyone. Its more of something that IS present that may add a dynamic to some roleplays, not take over the whole site and get rid of the freeform feel, its more about giving people the completely optional choice of having a structure and being able to build upon a character and feeling satisfaction that you started from nothing and got… something, after hard work and tough decisions.
(The third was more of a sentiment, not something i expected to be taken seriously)
Author: Moliira, Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 3:20 PM, Post Subject: Dilemma
Hi, head admin here. Let me try and answer some of your questions.
1. We're working on it. We're also working on email functionality, watch lists, and other things. It's coming, I promise.
2. There's a reason we do not have set races. It's too much of a limitation. As for classes, that's something I would like to add at some point. But there's also a reason there is a class section in your profile. You can make up your own class, and it is defined by you, your abilities and items, and your creativity. We do not have a battle arena, which means there is no need for class specific abilities in that regard. That's the same reason for the lack of a skill tree. Again, it might be something for later. But there is no reason to have it now, especially with how you can customize and define your character through spells and items. And given that we allow substitution for similar abilities and items, you can have themes to suit anything. I have a character with a number of fire and arcane spells, but she is a celestial themed character.
3. There isn't anything to be done here. Everyone has their own speed and style in how much and how often they write. All I can say is pick your roleplaying partners carefully.
Author: CodeNat, Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:45 PM, Post Subject: Dilemma
1. I've recently joined the coding staff, and I can tell you that the cbox is a high priority but not currently the highest. Right now I'm working on getting a watch list to go with our newest email feature that I helped create, since people should be able to choose which threads flood their email and which do not. Once the bugs are worked out of that, we'll see if the cbox is next.
2. I can't help you there. The site is supposed to be free form.
3. Can't help you there, either. We are passionate writers here. It's what we do. ^^;
Author: Xallithelid, Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:22 PM, Post Subject: Dilemma
I would like to come back, i really would. But, there are a couple things that do bug me about the site in general.
1. There is no on site chatbox. I understand this is being coded in currently, but its been about six months i think since it was first mentioned.
2. Everything is a little too free form. I'd like it if there was an optional structure that could be used, and maybe a tag to go on RPs that indictates whether or not that specific roleplay was using the structure. Examples of the structure:
- Stats that could be modified to give a better feel for that character. (Optional)
- Set races and classes, although if agreed upon by the specific starter of the thread, others could be used. (Semi - Optional)
- Skill trees. This would make me very, very happy to see in a structured format. Skill trees for different types of magic and combat and the like. (This would be almost mandatory, as skill trees, in my opinion, are the foundation for character creation and the like.)
Now, i understand the staff is busy working on getting other things done and filled out, And this would be tenuous and time consuming. I would be willing to work on all of this if it was approved for an OPTIONAL part of the site.
3. People tend to go a bit overboard when writing. This is just a bit of a… thing i have, but holy crap, when i write with people on this site they drown me, and in the 30 minutes i have to respond i don't even get a fifth of the way done with what they wrote! Gosh, people are passionate writers on this site. And great, too. Its not that big of a deal, honestly. Its just… bad attention span sometimes… Yeah.
